Wednesday, November 26, 2008

900% GROWTH OF ISLAMIC POPULATION

The growth of Islamic population, their birth rates etc have been much debated. How does it impact the rest of us? And if the growth rate is alarming, how will it impact India?

I will present this article first with a macro view and then bring in micro view which is India / Pakistan / Bangladesh centric.

Let us look at the macro view – the presence of Muslims around the world.

MACRO VIEW:

Map 1 – shows that Islam is spread all over the world, and the annual growth rate in absence of total growth rate does not give a realistic picture.


Map 2 – This is an important map as it shows the growth of Islam and this is pretty much confined to North Africa / Arab / South & South East Asia.


Map 3 – It shows the percentage of Muslims around the world. India still has overall percentage <15% (but for only a short time – we will come to this later). In a separate article I had written why Islam cannot integrate with host nations – specifically acts of arson / killing go up commensurate with the increasing % of muslims in host nations.


Map 4 & 5 – Shows the actual Muslim population in countries. See the huge number of Islamic population in the Indian sub-continent.


CLICK ON THE ABOVE MAP FOR AN ENLARGED VIEW.

On top of such a huge and growing population the Islamic states are blessed with oil. Hence, it has been the dream of some Islamic scholars and strategists that the Islamic nations should form a confederation of states and come under one banner and control this precious commodity through Unites States of Islam (USI) – a de facto Caliphate. It is interesting to see the US version of this Caliphate and the Islamic version of this Caliphate, 2050 AD. In the US version – Afghanistan and Iraq are under US control. Of course, the Islamic version has no such pretensions. I believe, if this Caliphate comes about – it will mirror the Islamic version.

Map 6 – US version on Caliphate


Map 7 – Islamic version of Caliphate


The US version feels that there is tremendous conflict within Islam and sectarianism (fight within Sunni & Shia) will never make this Caliphate a reality.

Map 8 - Distribution of Sunnis & Shias in this world.


If Sunni & Shia can be termed as brothers – there is an old Persian saying. Me, my brother and our cousin against the stranger. Then me and my brother against our cousin. Lastly, it will be me against my brother. (Hence, what is stopping brothers from making common cause against an “identified” enemy – the stranger).

If you look at both the versions – India, it seems is out of this Caliphate. However, dreamers of this Caliphate in Pakistan, view it differently - they very much see portions of India in this Caliphate.

Map 9 - World Map by population. Look at this very interesting map. The map of the world has been redrawn with same borders but with different bulge – greater the population, bigger the bulge. Look at India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh – they are huge.

CLICK ON THE ABOVE MAP FOR AN ENLARGED VIEW.

Herein, lies the second part of the story. The declining population of Europe, Japan and Russia.

To maintain a steady population, a country has to have a birth rate of 2.10. However, Western Europe has a birth rate of 1.5 – which is 30% below replacement. For a nation obsessed with sex, they are producing less children. Other than a shrinking population, these countries will see shrinking economies and a far higher tax burden on the younger generation. Europe is trying to tackle this issue by importing Muslim labourers. France and Germany today have 10% Muslim population that are growing at a far higher rate than is the “host” Christian population. This affects foreign policy of nations. Germany and France did not support the US invasion of Iraq, simply out of the fear that their Muslim population will implode on them.

Japan which has an even lower birth rate of 1.3 has tackled its issues differently. They stand to lose 60 million of its population in the next 30 years. Japan does not import labour. It simply shuts down schools and businesses. Till date, Japan has closed 2000 schools and the rate of school closure is 300 / year.

For Russia the problem has taken catastrophic proportions. Its birth rate is so low, that by 2050, THE POPULATION OF RUSSIA WILL BE LESS THAN THAT OF YEMEN. Russia sits on 1/6 of the global available land and one cannot defend such a huge territory with such a small population.

MICRO PICTURE:

Let us look at India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Even though Bangladesh was part of Pakistan in 1947, for reasons of statistics, I am taking it as a separate country. I will show the population that was there in 1947 and expected population of these countries in 2050. All figures taken from World Bank.

PAKISTAN: Population in 1947 = 30 million. Expected Population in 2050 = 300 million. A 900% growth over 103 years.

BANGLADESH: Population in 1947 = 32 million. Expected Population in 2050 = 280 million. A 775% growth over 103 years.

INDIA: Population in 1947 = 345 million. Expected Population in 2050 = 1630 million. A mere 373% growth over 103 years.

Both Pakistan and Bangladesh have overwhelmingly Islamic population, hence growth is wholly attributed to them.

In case of India, there is a difference of Islamic population growth rate and the Hindu population growth rate. Muslims in India accounted for 9.9% of India’s total population in 1951, 10.8% in 1971, 11.3% in 1981, 12.1% in 1991. (CENSUS FIGURES - ACTUAL FIGURE HIGHER).

Let us look at the scientific data, and try to figure out when India’s muslims become 25% of India’s total population. Will come to why this 25% is important.

Total Indian Population in 1991 = 816 million.

Indian Muslim Population in 1991 = 101 million (12.1% of total).

% Increase in Total Population since 1981 = 23.8
%
Increase in Muslim Population since 1981 = 32.8
%.

We now make a few rough, order-of-magnitude calculations of the numbers involved and their actual consequences. Using t for time, with origin at 1991, T for total Indian population and M for the population of Indian Muslims, the relevant exponential equations are:

T(t)=T(0)exp(0.24t), with T(0)=816mil
M(t)=M(0)exp(0.24t), with M(0)=101mil


Our first calculation is based on the admittedly ad-hoc assumption that India can't support a population more than double the present one. The time for population to double is obtained by solving T(t)=2T(0), and we get t=2.89. Since we are measuring time in decades, this is about 30 years. Now we find that M(2.89)=262mil, while the total will double to 1632mil, and so the Muslim fraction will be only about 16%.

Now let us look at what it would take for the Muslim fraction to reach 25%. The relevant equation is:

M(0)exp(0.33t)=0.25T(0)exp(0.24t)

Solving for t, we get t=7.81, which is about 80 years i.e. 2070.

It is reliably argued (IN BOARDROOMS) that when the Muslim population of India will reach 25% of the total population, there will be a third partition of India. (The first two gave birth to Pakistan and Bangladesh).

Which area is vulnerable to such a scenario?

A quick look will point to Assam, West Bengal and Bihar. The present population ratio of Muslims is calculated to be 28% in Assam and 25% in W. Bengal.


I am quoting from a brilliant article written by Arun Shourie – which is a must read. He states: “West Bengal accounted for 56 per cent in South and North Parganas, 48 per cent in Nadia, 52 per cent in Murshidabad, 54 per cent in Malda and about 60 per cent in Islampur sub-division of West Dinajpur. (For those who are not in the know – the above mentioned named eg: West Dinajpur etc are districts within the state of West Bengal)

A study of the border belt of West Bengal yields some telling statistics: 20-40 per cent villages in the border districts are said to be predominantly Muslim. There are indications that the concentration of the minority community, including the Bangladesh immigrants, in the villages has resulted in the majority community moving to urban centres. Several towns in the border districts are now predominantly inhabited by the majority community but surrounded by villages mostly dominated by the minority community. Lin Piao’s theory of occupying the villages before overwhelming the cities comes to mind, though the context is different. However, the basic factor of security threat in both the cases is the same.

‘‘...Figures have been given showing the concentration of Muslim population in the districts of West Bengal bordering Bangladesh starting from 24 Parganas and going up to Islampur of West Dinajpur district and their population being well over 50 per cent of the population. The Kishanganj district (of Bihar) which was part of Purnea district earlier, which is contiguous to the West Bengal area, also has a majority of Muslim population. The total population of the districts of South and North 24 Parganas, Murshidabad, Nadia, Malda and West Dinajpur adds up to 27,337,362. If we add the population of Kishanganj district of Bihar of 986,672, the total comes to 28,324,034. (All figures are based on the 1991 Census.) This mass of land with a population of nearly 2.8 crores has a Muslim majority. The total population of West Bengal in 1991 was 67.9 million and of these, 28.32 million are concentrated in the border districts, with about 16-17 million population of minority community being concentrated in this area. This crucial tract of land in West Bengal and Bihar, lying along the Ganges/Hughly and west Bangladesh with a population of over 28 million, with Muslims constituting a majority, should give cause for anxiety for any thinking Indian.’’

And what if, from these figures, I had advanced two warnings.

First: ‘‘There is a distinct danger of another Muslim country, speaking predominantly Bengali, emerging in the eastern part of India in the future, at a time when India might find itself weakened politically and militarily.’’

And second "that the danger is as grave even if that third Islamic State does not get carved out in the sub-continent into a full-fledged country.”

I agree 100% with Shourie and would like to draw attention back to 2070 when this might become a reality as per statistics. However, the reality will be different. The plotters in Pakistan have re-drawn the India map and they want to see it fructify in their lifetime – and most of these are old warhorses are into their late 60s and 70s. Which means – in the next 15 years.

I have kept this article deliberately simple. There are many scenarios which can seriously complicate the above assumptions, for example:

1) detonation of a dirty bomb in Gujarat
2) nuclear attack on Israel
3) increasing riots in city centres as food becomes scarce following a draught, population keeps increasing but land mass does not
4) Shrinking shorelines due to global warming and consequent rise in water level. Will push millions of Bangladeshis in Bengal.

I give 15 years before we see very interesting and intriguing developments in our neighbourhood. Some of our politicians are hastening this process by shamelessly indulging in vote-bank politics.

And the game has started unfolding in Assam and Bengal. I had written an earlier article : BEHEADING IN BENGAL - WHAT NEXT? Another article I wrote : IS THERE A GORKHALAND? I believe this Gorkhaland agitation has been funded by ISI to wrest the "Chicken neck".

To exacerbate the split:

1)The serial blasts have taken place in Guwahati. The blasts want to split the community along religious lines - makes it easier for a future split.

2) Logically, therfore, blasts are imminent in Kolkata, Siliguri in West Bengal. It should be mentioned, Assam, Bengal and Kerela are the most communally sensitive states (as per poll). Hence, blasts here will have the desired result.

3) SIMI etc will carry on mindless killing of innocents to push forward the message: We can strike anywhere at our will and your police and intelligence are worthless in protecting you. This will psychologically wilt the population and drive it against police / army / political forces, hastening the divide.

WHAT NEXT? AND OUR RESPONSE?

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Vikram Sood said...

This should be an eye opener for all of us. Especially for our politicians who have played vote bank politics for ever so long. Peter Hammond's book is also a remarkable study of attitudes as the Muslim population grows in percentage. But where do we go from here.

BENGAL UNDER ATTACK said...

Sir,
It has been easier to present the facts - the solution is anything but so.

I have added the following after your comments here. Attaching below:

"And the game has started unfolding in Assam and Bengal. I had written an earlier article : BEHEADING IN BENGAL - WHAT NEXT? Another article I wrote : IS THERE A GORKHALAND? I believe this Gorkhaland agitation has been funded by ISI to wrest the "Chicken neck".

To exacerbate the split:

1)The serial blasts have taken place in Guwahati. The blasts want to split the community along religious lines - makes it easier for a future split.

2) Logically, therfore, blasts are imminent in Kolkata, Siliguri in West Bengal. It should be mentioned, Assam, Bengal and Kerela are the most communally sensitive states (as per poll). Hence, blasts here will have the desired result.

3) SIMI etc will carry on mindless killing of innocents to push forward the message: We can strike anywhere at our will and your police and intelligence are worthless in protecting you. This will psychologically wilt the population and drive it against police / army / political forces, hastening the divide."

THERE WILL BE NO PEACE IN INDIA,INDEED THE WORLD AT LARGE - IF ISI EXISTS. THAT IS THE SIMPLE BUT DIFFICULT MESSAGE.

Anonymous said...

This is indeed serious..and though your article has focussed mainly on the threats that East & N.E. India faces, if last night's events in Mumbai are anything to go by, the forecast for 15 yrs hence seems to have overnight shrunk to NOW.

Anonymous said...

In essence unless a strong leader emerges in the next 20 to 30 years, we had it.

Anonymous said...

Muslims will never ever accept to live under a Hindu majority / Buddhist majority / Chritian majority. If at all it will be a question of time till they gain majority status. Look at kashmir : they drove out the Hindus, gained majority status and then they want to part with us. They even had the audacity not to part with just 100 acres of land stating that Indian govt will change the religious landscape. Who has given the Muslims the right to think that Kashmir belongs to Muslims - such audacity comes from the weakness of the Indian government ? Infact if there was a strong leader he would have not only rubbished this nonsense by doing away with Article 370 but also made the Indian Muslims in Kashmir to start off with as anti-nationals.. Take way their citizenship with immediate effect and give them one month to defect anywhere they want..

Anonymous said...

India has been attacked by Pakistan - these were terrorists that came by rubber boats from sea.

USA attacked Afghanistan, Russia attacked Georgia. And INDIA is going to do .... ??

Anonymous said...

The only options left are these :-

(a) There should be a govt body which actively promotes the welfare of the Hindus. This in my opinion is an ABSOLUTE MUST. It should collect 2 to 3% of corporate profits towards ensuring that Hindus are well looked after. We should streamline the temples and their functioning so that we have no more temple stampede deaths and no Hindus should convert due to lack of money.

(b) Hindu girls should be taught not to look at Muslims at something great - which they currently do. This is a sad fact.

(c) This trust should also direct whether Hindus in other countries are getting tortured or not. The Indian govt must act on their recommendations.

(d) The Police and Army must necessarily be drawn from the RSS and VHP. This will broadbase the functioning of these two bodies while giving India a good supply of disciplined manpower.

Anonymous said...

Conversion ia a powerful tool. We must use it heavily to convert people back to hinduism.. otherwise as long as islam remains in india, pakistan or bangladesh, we wil never ever have peace...

Anonymous said...

yes I agree. we should bring ppl into hinduism.

Anonymous said...

or even buddhism or jainism or baha'i

ANJAN SENGUPTA said...

The answer is not as someone wrote:

1) HINDU girls should not look at Muslim men - why not? Not all Muslim men are bad - we are actually talking about a max of 2% radicalized Muslims of India - and that needs to be hunted and killed. Rest can and will live in peace. Religion should be taken out of mosques and put inside homes - that is the answer.

2) 3% of corporate profit for welfare of Hindus - preposterous. I will not give my profit for such a cause at all. Why, Hindus cannot look after themselves and are there not enough religious trusts in the first place. Remember a wise saying: THE MORE YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, THE LESS YOU BELIEVE IN YOURSELVES."

3) The police and army should be taken from RSS / VHP. I think the less said is better.

4) Converting Jains / Bahai's into Hindus is not a good idea at all. These are peace loving religion and gives India a diversity and we should be honoured at having them in our midst. They pose no long tern threat to India. But, Muslims do pose both a short term as well as a long term threat. Hence, convert these - can you?

5) Unless you kill the mother bee, attacking worker bees is of no use. Try to understand this philosophy and you will get your answers.

J. Alfred Prufrock said...

AS, I entirely support the views in your last comment. As for the article itself, if the facts are correct, it's informative. There are some sentences that need citations e.g. that riots and arson increase with the increase in Islamic population.

On a general note, perhaps we could tackle the wider problem by encouraging more sex - WITH condoms. Keeps all faiths busy, keeps them from screwing the general populace and yet combats population growth.

Less flippant and more viable options coming up soon in a post on my blog.

J.A.P.

Anonymous said...

You had mentioned that Kolkata could be the next target. The news I read in Times of India today says:

Kolkata's STF is armed with AK-series assault rifles, Insas and 9 mm pistols. The only training they have received till date are doses of physical exercises and sporadic firing practice at the Police Training College in Barrackpore. The training regime has not even been decided. There is a proposal to pay STF personnel 30% additional salary and provide insurance cover. These are still caught in red tape.

"The city will be badly hit if a terror strike takes place. There is no use trying to cover up that Kolkata Police is not equipped to handle anything close to what happened in Mumbai," the officer added.

Any comments?

rajasekaran said...

Friends.......what do you think about people like Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam...? as I read in one of the comments, the perpertrators are only 2% of the community. Can't we bring them into the fold of harmony without marginalising/isolating them..?? more we distance from them, more they huddle amongst themselves. Peace and love are the only panacea for this hatred mongering done by handful for personal gains. Can we forget good 'ol Bal Thackeray & now Raj Thackeray when talking about hate mongering..???

Anonymous said...

some indian muslims marry women and look at them as baby makers thats all.

Anonymous said...

so as long as the machines works, they'll pump in oil (sperm) to keep it going

Max said...

You said:

" ....there will be a third partition of India. (The first two gave birth to Pakistan and Bangladesh). "

There were no two partitions of India for there to be a third. India was partitioned only once along religious lines forming Pakistan (which had 2 wings, west and east). In 1971 the eastern wing broke off due to persecution by the more politically dominant western wing; to form Bangladesh.

Hence the "second" partition as you claim is not a partition of India but a partition of Pakistan.

Anonymous said...

(1) I am not saying all Muslims are bad - but definetely all terrorists are Muslims. Its just that Hindu girls are the most susceptible lot for the conversion. What do you want - another Pakistan and Afghanistan in India brought about by our women marrying Muslims.

(2) Are you aware that all Muslim organisations give 2.5% of their profits for the welfare of their own kind. This fund is called Zakat which is a kind of purifier for the wealth that a Muslim posseses. Do you even know that this fund is what makes sense for a lot of Hindus to convert to ? As a lot of Muslims do get access to free food / lodging etc from this fund.

(3) Unless you want to complete the beheading of Hindus in their own land - which has already happened and unless you want Kashmir repeated, you need to have first and foremost a clean police force. Notwithstanding anything the main organisations which are floundering today and which can become backbone for such a clean force of tomorrow are the VHP and RSS. A Muslim always supports his / her own. We Hindus love denigrating ourselves to show ourselves to be polictically correct.

(4) Nobody has said about converting Bahais and Jains or Christians into Hindus. What they have said is to convert the Muslims into Bahai's or some non-violent faith. The target of conversion should be only Muslims as they have simply lost the right to exist in a secular place.

(5) The mother bee is Saudi Arabia. Wiping out Mecca is not a bad idea. This religion has given enough headaches to enough people. They have lost the right to co-exist with others. If you ever go to Saudi with a idol of Vishnu or any other Hindu deity, it will be smashed in front of your eyes. When you see this yourself will you understand what I am talking about

Anonymous said...

Simply brilliant .... did not know that this has reached such alarming proportions. Pls disseminate this article to Bongs all around.

BENGAL UNDER ATTACK said...

@MAX - I stand corrected.

Anonymous said...

We need a multi-pronged strategy to stop and reduce the muslim population in the world.

In India, We need a "final solution" to reduce muslims in Akhand Bharat.

We can start experimenting with Gas Chamber tactic* or start using MOABs in muslim areas.

*Apologies to my Jew Brothers for remainding this word.

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TTV INDIA said...

Interesting article and I think apt too. ha we had the Sanjay Gandhi way back then, the problem would not have arisen. But thus is history of India, Misses and only Misses, no Hits. Great Analisys of the situations and am sure that the people in the govt. are also aware of these ground realities, but are only too self centred to use it to their benefit. Balls to the rest of the Population. The term Minority is something that has got skewed in a direction that will do more bad for the nation. None the less, with the likes of Raj Thakrey's and Mayawati's and Mulayam Singh's, we can never think of getting the population United against anything. Pakistani Army outfit is hellbent on avenging 1971 and seems to be fructifying in the east. While all efforts and attention are concentrated towards North (Kashmir), North East lies unattended. Time to change things and strategies. What lies ahead would be interesting to see.

Mecha LEBU said...

@BENGAL UNDER ATTACK

Gorkhaland is a different issue . Infact the people of Gorkhaland might be voting for the NDA .

Anonymous said...

there are no communal problems in UP,Bihar,W B etc. So the real culprits are Congress and BJP. Defeat them to eliminate terrorism. Jai Mayawathi

Anonymous said...

The whole World is turning Islamic!!

Anonymous said...

Hi!
While sufing i stuck to this page and gone thru different commnets, i honestly tried to brush aside some comments which in my opinion are posted by mentally retarded persons but i could't.
some one says SIMI etc will carry ..., some advised Hindu gals should not...,..., and the height of mental insolvency is so as long as the machines works... and finally the post We can start experimenting with Gas Chamber tactic* or start using MOABs in muslim areas...

I can easily give a tit-for-tat answer but war of word is not going to give any solution rather it will worsen the situation by creating ahtered between majority and minority.

Majority has always a different set of mentality where as minority different and it is true in all countries around globe.

As a Muslim what i think the root cause of all these problems are (i) illiteracy and (ii) poluted mind set amongts few from majority.

Point (i) does not need any further explanation but point (ii) difinately requires some explanation.

I frequently found a good numbers of articles emphasising to bring minority into main stream but how?

If i go to :
rent a house:No to Muslim
buy a piece of land:No to Muslim
buy a flat:No to Muslim
get a job: No to Muslim

and where there money matters there is no money to warm the hands.

There are numbers of riots in India causing deep insecurites amongts Muslim. But now the situation is gradually improving and Muslims are also drawn towards education.

It is high time if brothern of majority helps there will be considerable changes in Muslim community, be it in front of education, Birth Control or others.

Merely pointing fingers on minorities will worsen the situation.

Anonymous said...

Islam has not contributed anything to better the well-being of humanity whether that is math, science or healthcare. All the advancements made in those fields were by pre-converts or recent converts to islam, all those that are born in to the cult have no understanding of anything other than to respect the 6 year old loving Mohammed and death to infidels. According to population growth studies the pre-partition area of India will be 50% muslim and christian by 2050 when the world population is supposed to peak, Hindus, Sikhs joins, etc will be 50%, although Hindus will have a majority in what is modern day India, some areas like west Bengal may end up becoming part of greater bangladesh.

Anywhere outside of India communism is seen as a threat to all religions, whereas in India communists are allies with muslims. This is a disturbing trends. India cannot survive in this pseudo-democratic corporate state, there needs to be a revolution from the Hindu community or slowly it will simply become an islamic nation.

That is typical muslim logic. What is ours is ours (pakistan, bangladesh, saudi arabia) and what is yours (India) is up for grabs may the best man or infidel win.

Every islamic country in the world or country with a decent islamic population (excluding china of course, as they use islamic tactics on muslims) is strife with instability from bali to britain.

Islam means submission it is not compatible with anything else, look at what happened to Lebanon 50 years ago christians were the majority and then intense violence broke out, and they are supposedly the most civilized of the Arabs.
If these people wish to live in the 7th century then they should stay there, and not have access to any of the technology or resources that exist today and enjoy dying at 35.

The Indian government must be dissolved, India is like a frog in boiling water, the template of division was set by the British and ironically now it is effecting them, let us not hope that it occurs in India.

Anonymous said...

To control the muslim population and also other population the government has to bring out a rule of only 2 kids per family, just like china did. this is very important for india as a whole. i hope that government will open its eyes like china did and implement this rule as soon as possible. I think 2 kids per family is very resonable. this will be the best way to control muslim population especially, as they give birth to 6 - 8 kids per family on an average.
Muslim population in india is growing at a very high rate than that of hindu population as they give birth to 6 - 8 kids per family on an average. If the government do not implement the rule of 2 children per family then this hindu country will become muslim country soon as the muslim population will surpass hindu population. This is a very strategic method to control muslim poulation and also the total population of india.
This population control is also a benifit for reducing the global warming and also to whole india in many ways.

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Anonymous said...

I dont have any particular belief, therefore I am neutral and can see that Christians in particular feel threatened to Islam. And the way things are going, Christianity and co. are beggining to sound evil in a sense. Islam for me is becoming ever increasingly the answer. So you can hate all you want, but if you dont convert, your children will, and if they dont, their children will... im thinking about following Islam, you should to!

Anonymous said...

U ppl r in severe trouble u cnt challenge our growth rate in 2025 dere will b approx 2 billion Muslims.
I thnk in approx 2027 dere will no country namd india on world map dat is sure n it will happen mayb sooner or a bit later !!! INSHALLAH !!!
My advice 2 all of u is 2 accept ISLAM n if u dnt ur ancestors will !!! Dnt challange us !!! We r going 2 destroy hindustan sooner !!! INSHALLAH !!! Beware of dat time !!!

Anonymous said...

My dears...very very intelligent fellows this is your ultimate right to see dreams because you ate too much rich food in dinner and these in-digestive dreams must came to you.

These Dreams never be true..

We need Peace for Entire World.

Kindly dont take Rich food in Dinner.

Regards
Dr.Aadil Saeed
Gastroenterologist

http://pandurabox.livejournal.com

Hindustaani said...

Dear Brother,

Dont make and dont spread wrong information.

Have healthy food ,dont eat too much so that you will never get such type of thoughts.

Try to think some good things whcih can help the growth and development of INDIA.Dont waste your time by creating these type of false theories.

May God Bless you.

RSS MURDAABAAD.

JAI HIND .

Anonymous said...

U ppl r in severe trouble u cnt challenge our growth rate in 2025 dere will b approx 2.5 billion Muslims.
I thnk in approx 2027 dere will no country namd india on world map dat is sure n it will happen mayb sooner or a bit later !!! INSHALLAH !!!
My advice 2 all of u is 2 accept ISLAM n if u dnt ur ancestors will !!! Dnt challange us !!! We r going 2 destroy hindustan sooner !!! INSHALLAH !!! Beware of dat time !!! Ameen!!

Adam
from Scotland

Anonymous said...

Dear all,
By reading the above comment "there will be no India" think about it , and think twice history has witnessed that no way to get out of wrong doings.
So try not act stupid and think about contributing to the problems that the world is facing today...
(water crisis, ozone layer depletion,health issues etc)of course you wont be worried of all that.

LKN-17

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Ahmed said...

IN BRIEF
Dr Zakir Naik : I started my talk by quoting a Verse from the glorious Qur’an from Surah Al-Imraan Chapter #3 Verse #64 which says : Qul ya ahla alkitabi (say oh people of the Book) taAAalawila kalimatin sawa-in baynana wabaynakum (come to common terms as in us and you) which is the first term? allanaAAbuda illa Allaha (that you worship none but Allah, Almighty God) wala nushrika bihishay-an (that we associate no partners with him) wala yattakhitha baAAdunabaAAdan arbaban min dooni Allahi (that we erect not among ourselves Lords and Patrons other than Allah) faintawallaw (if they turn back)faqooloo ishhadoo (say you bear witness) bi-anna muslimoona (that we are Muslims bowing our will to Allah Almighty God).

Dr. Zakir Naik addresses the gathering.
This Verse of the glorious Qur’an though it particularly speaks to the ahle kithaab, the Jews and Christians, it is meant for all different types of people, it says “taAAalawila kalimatin sawa-in baynana wabaynakum.” (come to common terms as with us and you) which is the first term? allanaAAbuda illa Allaha (that you worship none but God Almighty) wala nushrika bihishay-an (that we associate no partners with him).
It is not appropriate to try and understand a religion or to try and understand the concept of God in a religion, by observing the followers of that religion; because many a times the followers of that religion, they themselves may not be aware about the religion or the concept of God in the religion; neither it is appropriate to observe or look at the traditions or the cultures of the followers of the religion because many of the cultures and traditions may not be part of the religion.
The best and the most authentic way to understand any religion or the concept of God in a religion is to try and understand what the sacred scriptures have to speak about that religion or the concept of God in that religion.

Ahmed said...

Let us understand what is the meaning of the words Hinduism and Islam.
The word Hindu has geographical significance and was used to describe the people living beyond the river Sindhu or people living in the land watered by river Indus. Most of the historians, they say, that this word Hindu was first used by the Arabs. Some historians say it was used by the Persians when they came to India through the north western passes of Himalaya. According to encyclopedia of religion and ethics, Volume #6, Reference #699, it says that the word Hindu was not found in any of the Indian literature before the advent of the Muslims to India. According to Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, he writes in his Book “the discovery of India” on page #74 and #75 that the word Hindu can be earliest traced to a source a tantrik in 8th century and it was used initially to describe the people, it was never used to describe religion. Its connection with religion is of late occurrence according to Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. The word Hinduism is derived from the word Hindu. The word Hinduism was first used by the English writers in the 19th century to describe the multiplicity of faiths of the people of India. According to new Encyclopedia Britannica, Volume #20, Reference #581, it says the word Hinduism was first used by the British writers in the year 1830 to describe the multiplicity of the faiths of the people of India excluding the converted Christians. That is the reason today, majority of the Hindu scholars they say that the word Hinduism is a misnomer. The correct word should be Sanatan Dharm, the eternal religion or the Vedic Dharm, the religion of the Vedas. According to Swami Vivekananda, he says the word Hindu is a misnomer; the correct word should
be a Vendantist, a person who follows the Vedas.

Ahmed said...

The word Islam comes from the root Arabic word salam, which means peace. It is also derived from the Arabic word silm, which means to submit your will to Almighty God. In short, Islam means peace acquired by submitting your will to Almighty God and this word Islam occurs in several places in the Qur’an and the Sahih Hadith including in the Qur’an in Surah Al-Imraan, Chapter #3 Verse #19 and Surah Al- Imraan Chapter #3 Verse #85. Any person who acquires peace by submitting his will to Almighty God, to Allah, he is called as a Muslim and this word Muslim also occurs in several places in the Qur’an and the Sahih Hadith including in the Qur’an in Surah Al-Imraan Chapter #3 Verse #64 and Surah Fussilat Chapter #41 and Verse #33.
Many people have misconception that Islam is a new religion, which came into existence 1400 years ago and Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the founder of this religion. In fact, Islam is there since time immemorial. Since man set foot on the earth, and Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is not the founder of this religion but he is the last and final messenger sent by Almighty God, the last and final Prophet.

Ahmed said...

If we ask the common Hindu that how many Gods does he believe in? Some may say 3, some may say 100, some may say 1000, while others may say 33 crores, 330 millions. But if you ask a learned Hindu who is well Versed with his Hindu scriptures, he will tell you that in Hinduism you should believe and worship only one God. But the common Hindu, he believes in a philosophy known as pantheism, everything is God. The common Hindu believes that the tree is God, the sun is God, the moon is God, the human being is God, the snake is God. What we Muslims believe is everything is God’s, everything belongs to God’s, ‘G’ ‘O’ ‘D’ with an apostrophe ‘s’; the tree belongs to God, the sun belongs to God, the moon belongs to God, the human being belongs to God, the snake belongs to God. So the major difference between the common Hindu and the common Muslim is that the common Hindu says everything are Gods, we Muslim say everything is God’s.
Let us try and understand what would the sacred scriptures of Hinduism have to speak about Almighty God.
It is mentioned in the Chandogya Upanishad Chapter #6, Section #2, Verse #1; ekam evaditiyam God is only one without a second. It is a Sanskrit quotation. “I know that I am speaking in front of a great scholar of Vedas Sri Sri Ravi Shankar I am just a student. So if my Sanskrit pronunciation is a bit poor, I would like to apologize. He is a great scholar of the Veda, I am just a student of Islamic comparative religion as well a student of the Hindu scriptures and the Vedas.
It is mentioned in Swethaswethara Upanishad, Chapter #6, Verse #9, Na casya kasuj janita na cadhipah, which means of him of Almighty God, there are no parents they have got no lord. Almighty God has no true father, he has no true mother, he has no true superior.
It is mentioned in the Swethaswethara Upanishad; Chapter #4, Verse #19 Na Tasya Pratima Asti of that God there is no Prathima, there is no likeness, there is no image, there is no picture, there is no photograph, there is no sculpture, there is no statue.

Ahmed said...

It is mentioned in Swethaswethara Upanishad; Chapter #4, Verse #20; no one can see the Almighty God and it is further mentioned in Bhagwat Gita Chapter #7, Verse #20; all those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many Gods. Some of the translation says that all those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship idols and this quotation is also mentioned by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in his Book “Hinduism and Islam the common thread” in the section of not worshiping other Gods on page #3. He gives the quotation but does not give the reference. The reference is Bhagwat Gita Chapter #7 Verse #20.
It is further mentioned in Bhagwat Gita Chapter #10 Verse #3, that they know me as the unborn not begotten, the supreme lord of the world. Amongst all the Hindu scriptures, the most sacred are the Vedas.
It is mentioned in Yajur-Ved Chapter #32, Verse #3 Na Tasya Pratima Asti of that God there is no Prathima. Prathima as I said, means likeness, image, picture, photo, sculpture, statue.
It is further mentioned in Yajur-Ved Chapter #40 Verse #8 Almighty God is imageless and pure.
It is further mentioned in Yajur-Ved Chapter #40 Verse #9 Andhatma pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste. Andhatma means darkness,pravishanti means entering, and Asambhuti means the natural things like fire, water, air. They are entering darkness those who worship the natural things like fire, water, air, etc and the Verse continues, they are entering more in darkness those who worship the Sambhuti. The Sambhuti are the created things like tables, chairs, etc; who says that? Yajur-Ved Chapter #40 Verse #9.
It is further mentioned in Atharva-Ved Book #20 Hymn #58 Manthra #3 Dev maha osi verily great is Almighty God; and amongst the Vedas, the most sacred is the Rig-Ved.

Ahmed said...

It is mentioned in the Rig-Ved Book #1, Hymn #164, Manthra #46, ekkam sat vipra bhuda vidyante Truth is one, God is one, sages call him by various names. God is one but the saintly people call him by many names and there are no less than 33 names given to Almighty God in Rig-Ved Book #2 Hymn #1 alone. One of them is Brahma. The Brahma is called as the creator. If you translate creator into Arabic, it means khaaliq. We Muslims have got no objection if someone says that Almighty God is khaaliq or Creator, but if someone says this Almighty God has got 4 heads and on each head is a crown, you are giving an image to Almighty God. We Muslims take strong exception to it. More over, you are going against Swethaswethara Upanishad Chapter #4 Verse #19 which says Na Tasya Pratima Asti, of that God there are no images.
The other name given to Almighty God in Rig-Ved, Book #2, Hymn #1, Verse #3 is Vishnu. Vishnu is called as the God who is the sustainer. If you translate Sustainer into Arabic, it is somewhat similar to Rabb. We Muslims have got no objection if someone calls Almighty God as Rabb or Sustainer, but if someone says he is Almighty God who has got 4 hands and giving an image to Almighty God, in one hand is the lotus, the second hand is the conch, traveling on the sea on the bed of snakes, we Muslims take strong objection to it. Moreover you are going against the Yajur-Ved, Chapter #32, Verse #3 which says Na Tasya Pratima Asti of that God there is no prathima. There is no likeness, there is no image, there is no picture, there is no statue, no sculpture. It is further mentioned in Rig-Ved Book #8, Hymn #1, Manthra #1 Ma chitanidi sansad worship him alone, one God, praise him alone. It is mentioned in Rig-Ved, Book #6, Hymn #45 Manthra #16, praise him alone, worship that one God and the Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan Bhagwan ek hi hai doosra nahi hai, nahi hai, nahi hai, zara bhi nahi hai. There is only one God not a second one, not at all, not at all, not in the least bit. So, if you read the Hindu scriptures, you shall understand the concept of God in Hinduism in the light of the sacred scriptures.

Ahmed said...

Let us understand the concept of God in Islam.
The best reply anyone can give you from the scriptures is quote to you Surah Ikhlaas, Chapter #112 Verse # 1 to 4 which says Qul Hu-wallaahu Ahad (say he is Allah one and only) Allaahus-Samad (Allah the absolute and eternal) Lam yalid, wa lam yuulad (he begets not nor is he begotten) walum yakul-la-Huu kufu-wan ahad (there is nothing like him). This is a 4-line definition of Allah subhaanawa thaala, of Almighty God given in the Qur’an. If any person says so and so candidate is God, if that candidate fits in this 4- line definition, we Muslims have got no objection in accepting that candidate as God. The first is Qul Huwallaahu Ahad (say he is Allah one and only) God is only one without a second. ekam evaditiyam Chandogya Upanishad Chapter #6, section #2, Verse #1. The second is Allaahus- Samad (Allah the absolute and eternal) same as Bhagwat Gita Chapter #10 Verse #3, they know me as unborn not begotten without a beginning, supreme Lord of the world. The third test is Lam yalid, wa lam yuulad (he begets not nor is he begotten) same as Swethaswethara Upanishad Chapter #6 Verse #9 Na casya kasuj janita na cadhipah of him there are no parents, no lords. Almighty God has got no mother, has got no father, he has got no superior. The fourth test is walum yakul-la-Huu kufu-wan ahad (there is nothing like him). Swethaswethara Upanishad Chapter #4, Verse #19, Yajur-Ved Chapter #32 Verse #3 Na Tasya Pratima Asti of that God there is no prathima, there is no likeness, there is no image, there is no picture, there is no statue. If any person says so and so candidate is God, if that candidate fits in these 4-line definition which we discussed of the Qur’an and the Hindu sacred scriptures, I have got no objection accepting that candidate as God.
We Muslims, we prefer calling Allah with the Arabic word Allah instead of the English word God because a person can play mischief with the English word God. But when any Muslim is speaking to the non Muslim, who may not understand the meaning of Allah and uses the English word God like what I am doing today, I have got no objection but I would like to mention that God is not the appropriate translation of the Arabic word Allah and this word Allah is mentioned in the scriptures of all the major world religions including Hinduism.
It is mentioned in Rig-Ved Book #2, Hymn #1, Verse #11, one of the names of God is given as Allah. Allah is also mentioned in Rig-Ved, Book #3, Hymn #30 Manthra #10 and also in Rig-Ved Book #9, Hymn #67, Manthra #30, there is a separate Upanishad by the name of AllOpanishad which is also mentioned in one of the books of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar a separate Upanishad, that is AllOpanishad.

Ahmed said...

hi

Anonymous said...

@Ahmed - The posted verses have been refuted a number of times and are still the favorite copy-paste pass-time for muslims. I ask you only one question - "The world knows that God of Vedas is omnipresent. Is Allah omnipresent?"

The day you agree that "Allah" is omnipresent - the differences will cease to exist because then you can see the existence of divinity in everything and every being.

Muslims should guarantee that they would not use the regular negative logic (proving others are wrong does not automa...tically mean you are right). Muslims should guarantee that they would not resort to communal violence if they loose the debate.

You should prove to us:-

1. Allah is the same god as the god of Vedas.
2. Allah is omnipresent (coz god of vedas is omnipresent)
3. Allah is perfect
4. Quran is the most scientific book ever made in history of humankind. It is perfect without need of any change.
5. Sharia is perfectly in-line to the modern world and it is not 7th century ideology.
6,. All the hindu concepts of Yoga/Ayurveda/Vedic Mathematics/Astronomy are hogwash. Islam has better alternatives.
7. Decimal system should be banned in the world because it is hindu(kafir) subject. Islam has better alternatives.
8. Islam and Sharia are the final law and order to be followed all over the world without any justification/discussion.

Anonymous said...

Hinduism Islam Interfaith harmony through understanding:-
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Asia is center of two big faiths of the world. Although the religions differ, still we can attain the interfaith harmony by understanding the differences and similarities between the two. I would request you to kindly avoid abuse or unjust criticism and try to concentrate on the positive aspects of both of them.

Origin:-
-Hinduism is a set of collective beliefs and philosophies of people who reside in Indian sub-continent. Hinduism (or Dharma/Dhamma/Sanatan Dharma) is considered as the oldest faiths of the world and the origin of various profound and deep philosophers(gurus) like Vardhman Mahavir, Gautam Buddha, Shri Guru Nanak Dev ji. Hinduism is claimed to be more than 7000years old faith. Although few of scholars claim it to be far ancient and eternal(Sanatan).

-Islam is confident to be the second biggest faith of the world after christianity. Started 1400years before(610 A.D.) by Holy Prophet Muhammad who received direct intuition from god Allah(swt). Prophet Muhammad highly criticized the existing faiths of the concerned area to be corrupted with time and declared that Islam (the religion of Allah-swt) to be the final commandment to be followed.

Number of Followers:-
-Hinduism has the third largest group of followers with 900 million followers after Christianity(2.1 billion) and Islam(1.5 billion). Hinduism is prominent religion in South Asia - India with around 800 million followers and more at Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, up to Mauritius, Fiji...
-Islam is the world's second largest religion after Christianity. According to a 2009 demographic study, Islam has 1.57 billion adherents, making up 23% of the world population.Islam is the predominant religion in the Middle East, in northern Africa, and in some parts of Asia. Approximately 50 countries are Muslim-majority.Around 62% of the world's Muslims live in Asia, with over 683 million adherents in such countries as Indonesia, Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. About 20% of Muslims live in Arab countries.

Anonymous said...

Hinduism Islam Interfaith harmony through understanding.....:-
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Concept of god-
-Hinduism believes in Omnipresence of God. In "Hinduism" Brahman(or Parbramha or divine consciousness) is the supreme being responsible for evolution and dissolution of universe through its 3 energies of creation(bhrama), maintainer of life(vishnu), and destroyer(shiva). His Avatars are considered as envoys who appear from time to time to set and example and restore Dharma (the right path or rectitude) on earth. It is believed that all living beings are alive due to Atma(soul or individual consciousness) which carries essence of God.

-Islam defines Allah(swt) as invisible, all knowing and extremely merciful to his followers. Islam defines Allah(swt) to be worshiped in invisible form only, rejects concept of incarnation and strictly prohibits worship of Idols of any god. Further, Islam establishes Allah(swt) to be separate from humans who are considered to be filthy and low creatures.

****However few renowned scholars of Islam like Dr. Zakir Naik consider Allah(swt) to be the same god as god of Vedas and believe that Hindus should worship Allah(swt) only as god.

Purpose of Life:-
-Hinduism considers union(yoga) of individual consciousness(Atma) to divine consciousness(Parmatma or God) as purpose of life. This is called enlightenment. This is attained by performance of austerities, meditation, surrender of your ego to God and right Karma(thoughts,speech,deeds)... Concept of Heavens is present but it is considered transient - (Bhagwad Gita IX) 20. The Knowers of the triple Veda, who drink the soma-wine, purify themselves from sin, worshipping Me with sacrifice, pray of Me the way to heaven: they ascending to the heavenly worlds by their righteousness enjoy in paradise the divine feasts of the gods. 21. They, having enjoyed heavenly worlds of larger felicities, the reward of their good deeds exhausted, return to mortal existence. Resorting to the virtues enjoined by the three Vedas, seeking the satisfaction of desire, they follow the
cycle of birth and death.

-Islam declares heaven as eternal life with heavenly pleasures. Human life is considered as test to attain life of eternal pleasures in Heaven. However, due to sinful nature of humans, majority of them go to Hell. However, followers of Muhammad(saw) are guaranteed a place in Heaven.

malay muslim said...

Islam will dominate india!
Insya ALLAH

Go to hell with the inferior hindu!

sexyharry said...

fuck you malay muslim we will kick ur ass

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sexyharry said...

muslims and christians have quantity but the hindus and it's evolved religions have quality.
may god provide you peace and wat to say abt muslims they are extremists they blindly follow the fuck _______.you know what i wanna say they are inhumans and every religion wants to increase their population but after it world will turn towards peace i.e only by hinduism

Anonymous said...

@Ahmed..

Islam is growing is something is propagated in youtube..If u have ultra tiny brain look at other side of the coin too..It says 16 million people are leaving islam everyday..You say islam will dominate India hmmm..quite a dream..Hindus+Christians+other minorities consist of nearly 1 billion since population of India is close to 1.2 billion of which 150 million are muslims.

Even if you marry 4 wives which is allowed according to your cult religion,population of muslims cannot exceed not more than 400 million.And here you have to understand the fact that rest of the population too will grow along with your sadistic religion.

If am not mistaken there number of apostates in India,because of the fear of being disowned or killed is preventing them to denounce islam publicly.Add to that your cult says to kill anyone who leaves Islam.
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I would like to give a piece of advise to the readers in this forum..Go to faithfreedom.org and understand Islam and you will know the true nature of islam.

Anonymous said...

I was a secular person from heart till recent time but a careful study of Islam churned my heart upside down. This is a known fact that "Islamic Invasion of India" caused the bloodiest human massacre in the World History.It is estimated that about 80 million hindus were slaughtered at one go. Many of them fall victims of slavery and were sold in the slave markets of Middle East. Hindu Kush Mountains, now in Pakistan, were called so because many innocent hindus were slained while being taken to these slave markets. Many hindu temples were looted and plundered. The Kesava Deo Temple at Mathura was destroyed by Aurangjeb and its idols were taken to be fixed in the footsteps of the mosques, so they get trempled frequently under the feet of "so called believers". Many such horrific story of mass slaughter of Hindus has taken away all the secular feelings from my heart. It's worth to mention here that many Sikhs have protected Hindus from these moron fanatic muslims and protected our religion and thus, layed their lives. We should be thankful to Sikhs for protecting us otherwise we all will be circumcised. I request all to be non-sympathetic towards muslims but remain secular for other religions like Sikhs, jains, Baha'i as they sail with us on common boat. They are equally vulnerable to Islamisation process.

Indian muslim ROCKS said...

nonsense......
bharat ek apne aap main ekjahti ka sandesh dene wala mulk hain...
aur is taraha tum sab aapas main ladh kar desh ko badnaam kar rahe ho
actually ur thinking r responsible for all evel deeds

Anonymous said...

As long as hindus keep on voting for the party like Congress and its allies,hostile to their culture and religion this is going to happen.During elections each and every hindu needs to turn out for voting sparing sometime leaving their work and vote for a hindu based party for not only 4 years but next one million years,which safeguards the interests of hindus.Every hindu must have at least 10 children which would allow the hindu population to increase.Immediately attack Pakistan occupied Kashmir by taking military action and scrap the article 370 permanantly.The country should have hindu parliament and cabinet.There is only one way to deal with muslims that is force.A strong leader like Narendra Modi should be made prime minister of India.

Anonymous said...

India needs to have concentration camps to get rid of Muslims like Hitler did.

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Anonymous said...

Don't worry Afghanistan will take over India when we are finished with the Americans. All the powerful tribal groups of Afghanistan will combine and make the most powerful Muslim army in the world. Watch your backs Hindus, we the sultanate of Delhi will return.

Anonymous said...

Moslems in India might become 25% by 2080 if by birth rate alone. But you should also count the emirgation from Bangladesh which is substatial. You should also count conversions. I mean counting the Dalit as Hindus is an accounting fraud. They moment a missionary shows up and promises them equality, they'll convert within seconds. Moslems will therefore become 50% of India by 2050. The only way to stop them is reform Hinduism and make it look like Islam or Christianity. Or convert the underprivilegded into Christians before Moslem missionaries get to them. Then ally with the Christians against Islam.

Anonymous said...

I think most of the people who are commenting are not aware of the facts.

1. Islam is a peace loving religion.
2. There are 300+ million Muslims in India.
3. Muslims are more than 30% in Inida.
4. Islam & Christianity are spreading in India very. Specially Christianity, if you have time then go to the villages in India and see how the people are converting to Christianity.
5. Indian strength is in the unity.

JAI HIND.

shef roxx said...

its better if uu guise , u know, dont fight
stop giving these bad words in between. i am not mentioning the name!
if we will fight there might be a civil war!
STOP FIGHTING AND ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER!

viagra said...

I consider that it not only impacts a sector of the population but also to many sectors around the world, I hope that all those problems being solved to get a better world.

Harsh bansal said...

we must attack on Muslim birth rate because this point create all problem. Also higher birth rate most dangerous for all world because this will create the food and space problem.this fact must be understand by Muslim they will destroy due to our higher population. Most Muslim population live highly concentrated populated area like Bangladesh, Pakistan Indonesia and India. those country share about 50% part of Muslim population. at this time they face food and house problem in future they will die due lack of food because in these country can not increase agriculture land because forest area shrink to very low level. agriculture area also reduce due to the increase in population and fresh water problem also increase in this country so that heavy loss of human population due to lack of food and decease if population growth rate not decrease
and other about country like Arab country they have one income source
crude oil but this also will be finish in some after time. in these country not any agriculture land and not have other source and Europe and america once time the conflict start the all Muslim populations will vanish from these country. but keep nationality of India must be decrease growth rate of Muslim population. for repress Muslim population Hindu family must have 3-4 kids by this we can secure our future

Anonymous said...

As of today the muslim population stands at 40% ( or even more, who knows)and yet they are considered "minorities" in India. This is definitely some kind of joke because very soon they will be a majority.

Someone in this forum suggested setting up a Hindu welfare fund which I think is a very good idea. The Muslims have that in from my observation, property prices in my area have spiked up sharply in recent times because property is being bought by Muslims being funded by Gulf money and also black money. This is unfortunate but true. However, what is the future for the Hindu in Hindustan, I wonder?

Anonymous said...

As of today the muslim population stands at 40% ( or even more, who knows)and yet they are considered "minorities" in India. This is definitely some kind of joke because very soon they will be a majority.

Someone in this forum suggested setting up a Hindu welfare fund which I think is a very good idea. The Muslims have that in from my observation, property prices in my area have spiked up sharply in recent times because property is being bought by Muslims being funded by Gulf money and also black money. This is unfortunate but true. However, what is the future for the Hindu in Hindustan, I wonder?

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Drop of water said...

Try your best you cant stop Islam brother...Water makes its own place in any condition.

Drop of water said...

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Drop of water said...

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Unknown said...

being an muslim fr these days im unaware of our strengths...after reading this article ill try my level best fr ta growth of islam in india

Anonymous said...

kisi mai k lal mein dum nahi hai ki hindustan ko islamic country bana sake 1000 sal purana ye sapna tumhara sapna he rahega ,or tum logon ki har dharm walon se dushmani kha jayegi tumhe,ek din

Mohammed Saif said...

“They (the disbelievers) plan and Allah also plans. And Allah is the best of planners.” (Glorious Quran Surah Imraan, verse 54)

Anonymous said...

INVITE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES IN PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM AREAS AND CONVERT MUSLIMS INTO CHRISTIANS

Anonymous said...

HINDUS CAN ALSO LOOK AT MASS CONVERSION TO CHRISTIANITY, CHRISTIANITY IS AN AGGRESSIVE YET TOLERANT RELIGION UNLIKE ISLAM. WE HAVE TO DO THIS FOR SAVING OUR KIDS

Hindu said...

Don't give an Advantage to Indian Muslims. Don't give any land no job to Muslim.. Destroy their Masjids. Built the Temples Churche Gurudwaras...

Anonymous said...

we have great proof of muslim that what the did in jummu and want as the Muslim place who the hell told them as the Jammu is belong to muslim
we have to stand untill it's too late and these Sonia and manmohan government let the India as Muslim Nation

Anonymous said...

India: Muslims mob attacks Christian prayer meeting, beating, kicking and mocking Christians
Will the Islamophobia never end? "Islamic Extremists Beat, Mock Christians in India," from CDN, April 12 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

NEW DELHI, April 12 (CDN) — Islamic extremists in India attacked a Christian prayer meeting in West Bengal state, beating a 65-year-old widow and other women less than a month after they helped drive a young woman out of her home and village for her faith.
Islamists in Nutangram, Murshidabad district forced their way into the home of Gaffar Shaike on March 30 at around 2 p.m., as 11 Christians from Believers’ Church were gathered for lunch and worship. In the same area of Nutangram on March 9, Islamic extremists drove 22-year-old Rekha Khatoon out of her village because she dared to give thanks for healing in Christ’s name in the predominantly Muslim village; her parents helped the Islamists to beat her nearly unconscious.

Initially seven extremists led by Mohammed Aanu Shaike stormed into the home of Gaffar Shaike and ordered the Christians to stop the meeting, said Pastor Bashir Pal, founder and pastor of the village Believer’s Church.

Gaffar Shaike said the extremists called them pagans as they kicked, slapped and pushed the Christians, adding that they reprimanded him and his wife for dismissing several warnings from them to stop leading prayer meetings in their house. A year ago, the extremists had burned Shaike’s crops for his faith in Christ, he said.

“I asked the radicals why they barged into my house and why they were not allowing us to pray in my own home,” Shaike said, adding that the extremists were so blinded by fury that they only continued beating them, calling them pagans and threatening to continue doing so until they returned to Islam....

Anonymous said...

India: Muslims mob attacks Christian prayer meeting, beating, kicking and mocking Christians
Will the Islamophobia never end? "Islamic Extremists Beat, Mock Christians in India," from CDN, April 12 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

NEW DELHI, April 12 (CDN) — Islamic extremists in India attacked a Christian prayer meeting in West Bengal state, beating a 65-year-old widow and other women less than a month after they helped drive a young woman out of her home and village for her faith.
Islamists in Nutangram, Murshidabad district forced their way into the home of Gaffar Shaike on March 30 at around 2 p.m., as 11 Christians from Believers’ Church were gathered for lunch and worship. In the same area of Nutangram on March 9, Islamic extremists drove 22-year-old Rekha Khatoon out of her village because she dared to give thanks for healing in Christ’s name in the predominantly Muslim village; her parents helped the Islamists to beat her nearly unconscious.

Initially seven extremists led by Mohammed Aanu Shaike stormed into the home of Gaffar Shaike and ordered the Christians to stop the meeting, said Pastor Bashir Pal, founder and pastor of the village Believer’s Church.

Gaffar Shaike said the extremists called them pagans as they kicked, slapped and pushed the Christians, adding that they reprimanded him and his wife for dismissing several warnings from them to stop leading prayer meetings in their house. A year ago, the extremists had burned Shaike’s crops for his faith in Christ, he said.

“I asked the radicals why they barged into my house and why they were not allowing us to pray in my own home,” Shaike said, adding that the extremists were so blinded by fury that they only continued beating them, calling them pagans and threatening to continue doing so until they returned to Islam....

Anonymous said...

India: Muslims mob attacks Christian prayer meeting, beating, kicking and mocking Christians
Will the Islamophobia never end? "Islamic Extremists Beat, Mock Christians in India," from CDN, April 12 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

NEW DELHI, April 12 (CDN) — Islamic extremists in India attacked a Christian prayer meeting in West Bengal state, beating a 65-year-old widow and other women less than a month after they helped drive a young woman out of her home and village for her faith.
Islamists in Nutangram, Murshidabad district forced their way into the home of Gaffar Shaike on March 30 at around 2 p.m., as 11 Christians from Believers’ Church were gathered for lunch and worship. In the same area of Nutangram on March 9, Islamic extremists drove 22-year-old Rekha Khatoon out of her village because she dared to give thanks for healing in Christ’s name in the predominantly Muslim village; her parents helped the Islamists to beat her nearly unconscious.

Initially seven extremists led by Mohammed Aanu Shaike stormed into the home of Gaffar Shaike and ordered the Christians to stop the meeting, said Pastor Bashir Pal, founder and pastor of the village Believer’s Church.

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