Tuesday, January 20, 2009



Two important remarks:


1. David Miliband, the British foreign secretary, uttered in absolute disgraceful undiplomatic crass – the Mumbai attacks by LeT had the unresolved Kashmir issue as a root cause.

2. Lashkar-e-Taiba in Jammu and Kashmir was reported to have offered to shun its armed campaign for justice if the international community would help peacefully resolve Kashmir.

To take back to the concluding points of part 1 of the article - "SIR OLAF CAROE & VICEROY'S STUDIES GROUP (1942) - UK's ROLE - PART 1 of 2:

The British objective in breaking up India was simply not to divvy up the country.

The British wanted few things out of it:

1) They wanted a weak nation (Pakistan, that is), which would depend on Britain for its defense.

2) they wanted that newly-formed weak nation (aka PAKISTAN) to border the oil wells of Central Asia (part of the Soviet Union, then) and to be close to the Muslim-majority, oil-rich nations of the Middle East.

3) Corollary to the objective was that India, the larger of the two nations then in the subcontinent (now, with the emergence of Bangladesh in 1972, the subcontinent has three nations) must not have any common border with either Afghanistan (the buffer state) or the Soviet Union. Hence, Kashmir state must not go to India in its original form to INDIA and at best, status quo can be maintained.

Give emphasis on point 3 – The UK objective – Kashmir cannot go to India in original form as India must be prevented to have common borders with either Afghanistan and then then Soviet Union.

Juxtaposed in the historical facts are some current issues which I shall only highlight in a couple of points.

1. Mirupuris, from Mirpur region of POK (Pakistan Occupied Kashmir) form a vast diaspora in Britain. They control some major mosques from which British Intelligence picked up Muslim youths for jehad. Mirpuris formed an electorate base that could influence election results in UK. British Airways has a desk in Mirpur, POK – such is the scale of business and travel from the region.

2. Former Justice Department prosecutor and terror expert, John Loftus, revealed that Al-Muhajiroun group based in London and formed during the Kosovo crisis, were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo. Believe it or not, British intelligence actually hired some Al-Qaeda guys to help defend Muslim rights in Albania and Kosovo.

Read also an article by Michel Chossudovsky : “London 7/7 terror suspects linked to British Intelligence."

3. A brilliant analysis by Ramtanu Maitra (A MUST READ)– on the Mumbai train bombings of July 2006 writes : “Behind the Mumbai Bombings : Tracking the British Role”.

Ramtanu wrote the follow up to the 26/11 Mumbai attacks in: Mumbai massacre calls for a probe of British role.

4. Omar Sayeed Sheikh, the same chap we let go in Kandahar hijack, was also an MI6 asset. While B Raman writes about it in his article, what is not mentioned is the fact, after getting released from the hijack – Omar made two trips to London to visit his parents. Not once was he stopped at airports.

5. Lashkar e Taiba is a Punjabi terror organization incubated by ISI for asymmetric warfare against India in Kashmir. Imagine a bunch of Punjabi rag tags showing sympathy towards Kashmir !! ISI, fearing that local Kashmiris may not be able to wage war against the Indian state, incubated LeT to direct covert war as per its direction. That LeT was penetrated by KSA intelligence and CIA was discussed earlier. And as long as LeT targeted India in Kashmir, the British and the US looked the other way. And that LeT remains focused in Kashmir was brought forward by the statement above – “it will shun armed struggle if there is international intervention in Kashmir”. And lo and behold, from Obama to Miliband, we see Kashmir being uttered.

We know why Imperial Britain did not want India to have Kashmir.

We know why US / UK today, are suddenly concerned about Kashmir.

We see why LeT suddenly wants to shun violence in Kashmir if there is international intervention.

I was going to write a piece on this, but I noticed that Mr B Raman has already covered all that I wished to write and more, far better than I could have ever written. Hence, instead of even trying, I am giving Mr Raman’s article in full.

(Permission to reproduce the article received from author)


(The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai. He can be reached atE-mail: seventyone2@gmail.com)

1.There has been considerable anger and indignation in India over the attempt of David Miliband, the British Foreign Secretary, who visited India last week, to rationalise the terrorist attack in Mumbai from November 26 to 29,2008, by the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LEt) of Pakistan by linking the attack to the Kashmir issue. None of the indigenous Kashmiri organisations has linked the Mumbai attack to Kashmir.Yet Miliband sought to provide a legitimacy to the LET's terrorist attack by linking it to Kashmir, disregarding the fact that the attack, as seen from the brutal murder of nine Jewish persons and 12 nationals of Western countries, which have contributed forces to the NATO contingent in Afghanistan, was part of the global jihadi agenda unrelated to either Kashmir or the grievances of the Indian Muslims.

2. The shocking attempt by Miliband to play down the murders of 138 Indians and 25 foreign nationals committed by the Pakistani terrorists of the LET should not have come as a surprise to those aware of the historic links of the British intelligence with the Mirpuri migrants from Pakistani-Occupied Kashmir (POK) in the UK and their important role during elections in certain constituencies which traditionally return Labour candidates to the House of Commons with the support of the Mirpuri vote bank.

3. In this connection, I am reproducing below extracts from my article of 6-5-07 titled HOME-GROWN JIHADIS (JUNDULLAH) IN UK & US.


"After Pakistan and Afghanistan, the UK has been traditionally for many years the largest sanctuary to foreign terrorists and extremists. Everybody, who is somebody in the world of terrorism, has found a rear base in the UK--- the Khalistanis in the past, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), the Mirpuris from Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK), the Chechens, the Al Muhajiroun, the Hizbut Tehrir etc. Having allowed such a medley of terrorists and extremists to operate unchecked from their territory for so long, the British intelligence just does not have a correct estimate of how many sleeper cells are operating from their country and of which organisations.

"Since persons of Pakistani origin have been playing an increasingly active role in promoting the activities of Al Qaeda, it is necessary to analyse the nature of migration from Pakistan to the UK and the US. Muslims from Pakistan constitute the single largest Muslim migrant group from the sub-continent in both the UK and the US---followed by Indian and Bangladeshi Muslims. There are estimated to be about 700,000 Muslims of Pakistani origin in the UK. No estimate is available in respect of the US.

"The largest migrant group from Pakistan in the UK are Punjabi-speaking Muslims----from Pakistani Punjab as well as Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK). The migrants from the POK are called Mirpuris. They are not ethnic Kashmiris, but Punjabi-speaking migrants from the Pakistani Punjab, whose families had settled down in the Mirpur area of the POK for generations. They were essentially small farmers and landless labourers, who lost their livelihood as a result of the construction of the Mangla dam. They, therefore, migrated to West Europe---the largest number to the UK and a smaller number to France, Germany and the Scandinavian countries. Many of them preferred to go to the UK because it already had a large Punjabi-speaking community from Pakistani Punjab. The initial Mirpuri migrants, who hardly spoke English, felt themselves comfortable in a Punjabi-speaking environment.

" As the number of Muslims of Pakistani origin in the UK increased, mosques came up to cater to their religious needs. Till 1977, these mosques were headed by clerics from the more tolerant Barelvi Sunni sect. When Gen.Zia-ul-Haq, a devout Deobandi, captured power in Pakistan in 1977, he embarked on a policy of marginalising the influence of Barelvi clerics not only in Pakistan, but also in Europe and increasing the influence of the rabid Deobandis. He inducted Deobandis into the Education Department as Arab teachers and into the Armed Forces to cater to the religious needs of the military personnel. He encouraged and helped the Deobandis to take over the mosques in Pakistan and in the UK by replacing the Barelvis. With the induction of an increasing number of Deobandis started the process of the Arabisation/Wahabisation of the Muslims in Pakistan and of the Pakistani diaspora in the UK.

"The intelligence agencies of the US and the UK went along with Zia's policy of Arabising/Wahabising the Muslims of Pakistan because this contributed to an increase in the flow of jihadi terrorists to fight against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan.

Till 1983, the members of the Pakistani diaspora in the UK were considered a largely law-abiding people. The first signs of the radicalisation of the diaspora appeared in 1983 when a group of jihadi terrorists kidnapped Ravi Mhatre, an Indian diplomat posted in the Indian Assistant High Commission in Birmingham, and demanded the release of Maqbool Butt, the leader of the Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF), who was then awaiting execution in the Tihar jail in Delhi following his conviction on charges of murder.

When the Government of India rejected their demand, the terrorists killed Mhatre and threw his dead body into one of the streets. This kidnapping and murder was allegedly orchestrated by Amanullah Khan, a Gilgiti from Pakistan. He was assisted by some Mirpuris of the Pakistani diaspora. The British were unco-operative with India in the investigation of this case and declined to hand over those involved in the kidnapping and murder to India for investigation and prosecution. By closing their eyes to the terrorist activities of the Mirpuris from their territory, they encouraged the further radicalisation of the diaspora.

" Just as the radicalisation of the Muslims of Pakistan suited the US-UK agenda in Afghanistan, the radicalisation of the diaspora in the UK, particularly the Mirpuris, suited their agenda for balkanising Yugoslavia in the 1990s. Many Pakistanis from the UK went to the training camps of the Harkat-ul-Ansar (HUA -now called the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen) and the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET) in Pakistan and got themselves trained with the knowledge and complicity of the British. They then went to Bosnia and Kosovo to wage a jihad against the Serbs with arms and ammunition and explosives allegedly supplied by the Iranian intelligence with the tacit consent of the Clinton Administration and paid for by the Saudi intelligence.


As the Pakistani Prime Minister between 1993 and 1996, Mrs. Benazir Bhutto had visited these jihadis from the Pakistani diaspora in the UK who were waging a jihad against the Serbs in Bosnia. After waging their jihad against the Serbs, these jihadis from the UK moved to Pakistan to join the HUA and the LET and participate in the jihad against India.


"The most notable example of the home-grown jihadis of the diaspora in the UK, who waged a jihad in Bosnia at the instance of the British and American intelligence and then turned against them, is Omar Sheikh. From Bosnia, he came to India to wage a jihad and was arrested by the Indian security forces. He was released by the then Indian Government headed by Mr. A.B.Vajpayee, in December,1999, following the hijacking of an Indian Airlines plane to Kandahar by a group of HUM terrorists from Pakistan. After his release, he went to Pakistan and orchestrated the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl. The second notable example is Rashid Rauf, a Mirpuri, who went to Pakistan from the UK to join the Jaish-e-Mohammad (JEM) after marrying a relative of Maulana Masood Azhar, the Amir of the JEM. He was allegedly involved in the plot detected by the London Police in August last year (2006) to blow up a number of US-bound planes. This plot was hatched by some members of the Pakistani diaspora in the UK.

"The Mirpuris in the Pakistani diaspora in the UK were in the forefront of those supporting jihadi terrorism against India in Jammu and Kashmir and other parts of India since 1993, when the Pakistani jihadi organisations of Afghan vintage were infiltrated into India by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). They collected and sent funds to the jihadi terrorists in India. Many of them underwent training in the camps of the LET, the HUM, the JEM and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HUJI) in Pakistan and assisted them in their jihadi operations. The British intelligence was aware of members of the Pakistani diaspora going to Pakistan for training, but closed its eyes to it since it thought that they were going to wage a jihad against the Indians in J&K.

"A careful examination of the details relating to the various jihadi terrorism-related cases in the UK would reveal that the MI 5 was intercepting the telephone conversations of these Mirpuris and other Punjabi Muslims with their friends and relatives in which they spoke of their going to Pakistan for jihadi training. It did not take any action against them because it thought that they were going to wage a jihad only against the Indians and hence did not pose a threat to the British. The MI 5 intercepted the telephone conversation of even one of the perpetrators of the London blasts of July 2005, about his going to Pakistan for jihadi training. It did not act on it thinking he intended to wage a jihad against the Indians. Only after the London blasts of July, 2005, did the MI 5 realise with a rude shock that this Mirpuri was talking not of going to India to wage a jihad against the Indians, but to London to wage a jihad against the British.

"There is a sheepish, but indirect admission of this in the statement issued by the MI 5 rebutting criticism of its perceived failure to prevent the London blasts. It says: "RUMOUR: In February 2004, the Security Service recorded Khan's (Mohammed Siddique Khan) wish to fight and him saying goodbye to his family - a clear indication that he intended a suicide mission. REALITY: The Security Service did record conversations involving an individual identified after 7 July as Khan. From the context of the recorded conversation it is probable that Khan was talking about going to fight with militia groups in the Pakistan border areas. He was not talking about acts of terrorism in the UK."

" Today, innocent British civilians are paying for the sins of commission and omission of their authorities since jihadi terrorism broke out in Indian territory in 1989. It would be very difficult for the MI 5 to have an accurate idea of the number of trained Pakistani jihadis already in their midst. Reliable Police sources in Pakistan say that there are at least about 200 trained, potential suicide bombers in the Pakistani diaspora in the UK waiting for an opportunity to strike. These trained potential suicide bombers also provide a recruitment reservoir for future operations of Al Qaeda in the US homeland.

"The position in the Pakistani diaspora in the US is somewhat different. The initial wave of migrants to the US from Pakistan consisted largely of Urdu-speaking Mohajirs from Sindh, who originally went to Pakistan from India. The influence of the more tolerant Barelvi sect on them is still very strong. The extremist Deobandi/Wahabi ideology has not yet made the same impact on them as it has on the Punjabi-speaking Pakistani diaspora in the UK. Moreover, there has hardly been any migration of the Mirpuris from the POK into the US. Most of the Kashmiri migration into the US has been of ethnic Kashmiris----either the Hindu Pandits, who were driven out of the Valley by the jihadi terrorists after 1989, or sufi Muslims from the Valley. The Muslims from the valley, who had migrated to the US from J&K, are politically active against India, but they have so far kept away from the Deobandis and Wahabis.

"Since the 1980s, there has been an increase in the migration of Punjabi-speaking Muslims from Pakistan into the US. There has been growing Deobandi/Wahabi influence on them. It is these elements that Al Qaeda has been targeting for recruitment. A saving grace is that the US intelligence has a better awareness than the British of the dangers that could arise from its population of Pakistani origin and has been keeping a tight watch on them."


L. Venkata Subramaniam said...

I think we give too much emphasis to what fringe players like Miliband say.

We need to be confident about ourselves and should actually ignore such characters. Ignoring them and their views will actually allow us to give better direction to our own ideas.

Anonymous said...

Anon above - Correct.

But I guess, getting to know what motivates them help us nuance our response and counter better.

Anonymous said...

Raman's analysis is very interesting and disturbing. Other than the jehadis who have been homegrown and have a base in London, Omar Sheikh is a MI6 asset.

MQM head honcho is sitting in London and even though his party hates PPP, they are supporting Zardari at the behest of London.

London is playing a very dirty game - I think Obama administration will be a tricky hill to climb. Its not the same neo-con agenda.

Anonymous said...

no worries london is already paying the price... imo india shd orchestrate some more london bombings and blame on pakis and mirpuris there and crumble up UK.. play their game on them

Anonymous said...

afterall who knows these muslims / deobandis better than we do?

Anonymous said...

so we can use them 2 (1) terrorise UK sporadically using palestine, iraq, afghanistan. i am sure we can show british attrocities on muslims cant we (2) sporadic violence in pakistan. buy some ak-47 and rdx and make them rampage pakistan and also destroy the gwadar port. afterall the home of terror cant blame it on any1 else, can they

Anonymous said...

i mean when we can buy suicide bombers from swat for $5000, why cant we embark on a mission? buy in bulk around 100 bombers (maybe we may get discount) and make them pulvorise pakistan. destroy the jinnah memorial. destroy comm buildings. anything and everything. india has enough cash on its side to clean pakistan of the world map.

Anonymous said...

Activate defunct cells of IRA on London - easier logistics and ingress to London.

And also, start recruiting radical youths in London too from the mosques and evade electronic clutter and meetings - just good old house visits to forment jehad under false flag and screw the Brits. God knows - they deserve it.

It has to be made to pay the price. No more defense - we should start serving "aces".

Anonymous said...

BuA - Immediate danger is implosion of Islamists in Pakistan. Of course, desperate players like them have been used by CIA / MI6 and others.

But India cannot take out CIA / MI6 interests in the region or even jehadists out of the mosques of London.

Hence, we should look at Pakistan as an immediate threat and look at UK / US and all that later.

I appreciate your posts as they do throw lights on matters less known - but its my request that you deal more with the immediate neighbourhood - including Bangladesh.

Being Bengal - not heard about Bangladesh yet. :)

Just a suggestion !!

Anonymous said...

Agree 100% with Anon @ Jan 20 5:18 PM.

Activate the London mosque areas for some "work" around the Bobs of London. Altaf is a paid asset of MI6 - hence he will have his moles around the mosque for the Bobs.

I suggest, we start some covert activities in the soils of UK and keep options open in Australia. But start phase 2 of recruitment of radical Muslims from the mosques in UK.

Next time, UK tries to "piss" in our backyard, they will get a lesson they will not forget.

Anonymous said...

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh it is learnt has shot off a letter to British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, expressing disappointment over British foreign secretary David Miliband's comment linking terrorism to resolution of the Kashmir issue.

Fuck the Brits I say. They are smarting after the Chinese overtook their economy and India is not too far away - hence all this drama!!

Time to recall a few trade delegations, cancel a few diplomatic appointments - and the message will be heard loud and clear.

It should be known that Miliband did not speak in isolation - he had the blessings of his establishment.

Kannan,India said...

Miliband looks like a dumb idiot like Rahul Gandhi. He wants to sell himself as another "Obama"("yes we can") by expounding his exotic views and become a buzzword in the press. I think BuA went overboard with Great Game. Yes, Europeans and Americans want to secure energy interests in Asia, by hijacking world sympathy on events of 9/11. But I think until late 2006, Americans just used terrorism as bogey and was never really concerned about it. After the tribal ceasefire,surge of Taliban in Afghanistan and gradual destabilization of Terror state of Pak, they have begun to sit up and take notice. Now if a Paki nuclear or chemical weapon falls in the hand of jehadis, first thing they will do is to find an American target. So good luck with helping us with Kashmir



I think you are right when you say that I may have gone overboard with the Great Game.

The fact is I wanted to - right from Viceroy's Study Group to Rand Corporation to Unocal to Bilderberg to you name it - Central Asia has been cornerstone to Anglo American interests. The most West Asia slips away the more important Central Asia becomes to them.

Which is not a bad thing, if we are to embed our interest with them.

Imagine for a moment there are pots of gold in your neighbours house and they are weak and the house is not guarded. Either you will steal it or will guard it or do nothing. In case you do nothing, someone else might come with ulterior motive and set up shop there - which is in your vicinity and you may not like the new neighbour.

Rather than Chinese or China+Pakistan taking over Central Asian assets, we can look at Anglo American + Russian enterprise favourably.

India, itself, is a non-entity in the Big Game - as of yet - until it makes use of Chabahar port in some fashion - keeping an eye on Gwadar.

With NATO / US securing guarantees from Russia about new supply routes to Afghanistan, the bargaining power of Pakistan will suddenly dip.

But yes, Kannan, I think I will stay off the topic of Great Game for some time :).



Keshav said...

LVS - It seems that what Miliband said was well orchestrated rehersal for what Obama is going to do in future.

DO not be so quick to dismiss.

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